[eclibrise]

Плюсовый. Сомнительный пуш и кол флопа.
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SB: $16.78 (167.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.10 (101 bb)
UTG: $27.54 (275.4 bb)
MP: $10.67 (106.7 bb)
CO: $10.44 (104.4 bb)
BTN: $13.16 (131.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 8
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1, MP calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.05) 7 9 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.08, MP calls $1.08

Turn: ($4.21) K (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP raises to $8.59 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.02 and is all-in

River: ($20.25) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $20.25 pot ($0.91 rake)
Final Board: 7 9 5 K T
Hero showed 6 8 and won $19.34 ($9.24 net)
MP showed A Q and lost (-$10.10 net)

[cotyara1986]

Сообщение от -=Cyrax=-

Мы думаем, что конбет в 3бет поте ранняя против ранней ставится очень узко. Конкретно в этот флоп побольше - 35%, но обычно около 25-30%. Очевидно из-за того, что эквити диапазона не слишком большое.
88 предлагается ставить в 16% случаев. В целом прога предпочитает ставить сеты, тузы, часть остальных оверпар и топ пар, а балансировать это неготовыми руками типа KQ и KJ. Все средние готовые руки и часть натсов чекать бихайнд.


Здесь прога предлагает делить карманных дам на терне: с крестой - ставить и ривер допушивать, а без кресты - чекать и играть чек/пуш. Если поставил терн QQ без крестовой карты, то ривер чек/фолд.

а ты не мог бы для полноты анализа диапазоны наглядно с префлопа показывать. а то не полно как то выходит... Возможно из-за разного понимания префлопа, у нас разное понимание постфлопа выходит.
Заранее спасибо!

[cotyara1986]

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Сообщение от eclibrise

Не уверен по поводу вельюбета на ривере.
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Hero (SB): $10.09 (100.9 bb)
BB: $13.11 (131.1 bb)
UTG: $12.57 (125.7 bb)
MP: $7.11 (71.1 bb)
CO: $10.28 (102.8 bb)
BTN: $8.10 (81 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.90, BB folds, CO calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.90) 3 5 J (2 players)
Hero bets $0.97, CO calls $0.97

Turn: ($3.84) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.60, CO calls $2.60

River: ($9.04) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Results: $9.04 pot ($0.41 rake)
Final Board: 3 5 J 7 2
Hero showed Q Q and won $8.63 ($4.16 net)
CO mucked 9 9 and lost (-$4.47 net)

думал, нужно пушить ривер. Потому что сеты частично будут рэйзить на флоп и терне. Поэтому Jx- это основная часть его блафкетчей ривером. Но увидел, что закрылся бэкдор флаш. Тогда чек-фолд ривер

[eclibrise]

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Hero (SB): $10 (100 bb)
BB: $12.89 (128.9 bb)
UTG: $22.28 (222.8 bb)
MP: $13.51 (135.1 bb)
CO: $9.22 (92.2 bb)
BTN: $11.36 (113.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J T
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.22, CO folds, BTN calls $0.22, Hero raises to $1.20, BB folds, MP calls $0.98, BTN calls $0.98

Flop: ($3.70) 8 J 4 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.06, MP calls $1.06, BTN folds

Turn: ($5.82) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $2.70, MP calls $2.70

River: ($11.22) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.04 and is all-in, MP calls $5.04

Results: $21.30 pot ($0.96 rake)
Final Board: 8 J 4 Q 9
Hero showed J T and won $20.34 ($10.34 net)
MP showed 9 Q and lost (-$10 net)

[eclibrise]

Подумалось,что норм.
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SB: $25.19 (251.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $13.50 (135 bb)
UTG: $11.33 (113.3 bb)
MP: $12 (120 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K J
2 folds, CO raises to $0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.55) 4 Q J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.16, Hero raises to $0.61, CO calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.77) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.51, Hero calls $0.51

River: ($2.79) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.80, Hero raises to $3.42, CO folds

Results: $4.39 pot ($0.20 rake)
Final Board: 4 Q J 8 J
Hero mucked K J and won $4.19 ($2.02 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$2.17 net)

[-=Cyrax=-]

cotyara1986, привет!
После твоего сообщения начал искать в чем подвох. И нашел! У меня в колл 3бета на МР заложены АА, КК и АК. Без них результат получается совсем другим. Так что извиняюсь за кривой совет.
Наверное какую-то часть премиум рук можно класть в колл, но не 100%.

[eclibrise]

С роялем пожадничал.
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[-=Cyrax=-]

Сообщение от eclibrise

С роялем пожадничал.

А как-то можно было по-другому сыграть на ривере? Думаешь на гей рейз он бы не выкинул?

[eclibrise]

Сообщение от -=Cyrax=-

Думаешь на гей рейз он бы не выкинул?

Думаю да.

[eclibrise]

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SB: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
BB: $13.51 (135.1 bb)
UTG: $10.64 (106.4 bb)
MP: $11.12 (111.2 bb)
CO: $18.79 (187.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q A
UTG raises to $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.15) 9 3 K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.62, UTG raises to $1.24, Hero calls $0.62

Turn: ($4.63) 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $2.43, Hero raises to $7.76 and is all-in, UTG folds

Results: $9.49 pot ($0.43 rake)
Final Board: 9 3 K 3
UTG mucked and lost (-$4.67 net)
Hero mucked Q A and won $9.06 ($4.39 net)

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Hero (SB): $10.23 (102.3 bb)
BB: $9.95 (99.5 bb)
UTG: $6.14 (61.4 bb)
MP: $27.33 (273.3 bb)
CO: $17.23 (172.3 bb)
BTN: $24.93 (249.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 8
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.23, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.67

Flop: ($1.80) 2 7 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

Turn: ($4) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.10, Hero calls $2.10

River: ($8.20) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5.85 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.85

Results: $19.90 pot ($0.90 rake)
Final Board: 2 7 5 T T
Hero showed 8 8 and won $19 ($9.05 net)
BB showed A J and lost (-$9.95 net)

[eclibrise]

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SB: $14 (140 bb)
Hero (BB): $11.97 (119.7 bb)
UTG: $12.80 (128 bb)
MP: $12.02 (120.2 bb)
CO: $10.20 (102 bb)
BTN: $21.79 (217.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 8
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20) 5 K 4 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.37, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, MP calls $0.73

Turn: ($3.40) J (2 players)
Hero bets $2.10, MP calls $2.10

River: ($7.60) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4.07, Hero calls $4.07

Results: $15.74 pot ($0.71 rake)
Final Board: 5 K 4 J 7
Hero showed 6 8 and won $15.03 ($7.46 net)
MP showed 4 4 and lost (-$7.57 net)

[eclibrise]

В край уже ох регуляры...
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Hero (SB): $10 (100 bb)
BB: $13.56 (135.6 bb)
UTG: $10.38 (103.8 bb)
MP: $22.11 (221.1 bb)
CO: $0.51 (5.1 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q 8
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.23, BB calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.46) K 2 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.34, BB calls $0.34

Turn: ($1.14) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $0.85, BB calls $0.85

River: ($2.84) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $2.11, BB raises to $5.20, Hero calls $3.09

Results: $13.24 pot ($0.60 rake)
Final Board: K 2 3 Q Q
Hero showed Q 8 and won $12.64 ($6.02 net)
BB showed A 9 and lost (-$6.62 net)

[eclibrise]

Любопытно стало)))

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SB: $14.14 (141.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $13.51 (135.1 bb)
UTG: $10.99 (109.9 bb)
MP: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
CO: $19.17 (191.7 bb)
BTN: $15.67 (156.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K 4
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.23, SB folds, Hero calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.51) A 3 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.17, Hero raises to $0.62, BTN calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.75) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.40, BTN calls $1.40

River: ($4.55) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.91, Hero calls $2.91

Results: $10.37 pot ($0.47 rake)
Final Board: A 3 5 3 6
Hero mucked K 4 and lost (-$5.16 net)
BTN showed A 5 and won $9.90 ($4.74 net)

[eclibrise]

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SB: $10.92 (109.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.68 (106.8 bb)
UTG: $11.11 (111.1 bb)
MP: $10.22 (102.2 bb)
CO: $12.01 (120.1 bb)
BTN: $4.85 (48.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 7
4 folds, SB raises to $0.21, Hero calls $0.11

Flop: ($0.42) J 3 4 (2 players)
SB bets $0.24, Hero raises to $0.80, SB calls $0.56

Turn: ($2.02) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.30, SB raises to $2.75, Hero raises to $9.67 and is all-in, SB folds

Results: $7.52 pot ($0.34 rake)
Final Board: J 3 4 7
SB mucked and lost (-$3.76 net)
Hero mucked 6 7 and won $7.18 ($3.42 net)

[eclibrise]

Телефоном был помечен.
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SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $20.44 (204.4 bb)
UTG: $19.22 (192.2 bb)
MP: $8.72 (87.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $11.50 (115 bb)
BTN: $14.98 (149.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, 2 folds, BB raises to $1, Hero raises to $2.10, BB calls $1.10

Flop: ($4.25) Q 6 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB calls $1

Turn: ($6.25) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.80, BB calls $1.80

River: ($9.85) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.60 and is all-in, BB calls $6.60

Results: $23.05 pot ($1.04 rake)
Final Board: Q 6 6 5 8
BB showed A K and lost (-$11.50 net)
Hero showed A A and won $22.01 ($10.51 net)

[eclibrise]

Не знаю почему я открыл ВТо ,но теперь до конца 2019 года комба будет в плюсе.
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SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
BB: $25.07 (250.7 bb)
UTG: $10.78 (107.8 bb)
Hero (MP): $11.08 (110.8 bb)
CO: $29.86 (298.6 bb)
BTN: $9.82 (98.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J T
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.25, CO folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB folds, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.80) Q 7 9 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($2) 2 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.90, BB calls $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

River: ($4.70) 8 (3 players)
BB bets $3.50, Hero raises to $9.53 and is all-in, BTN calls $8.27 and is all-in, BB calls $6.03

Results: $32.03 pot ($1.44 rake)
Final Board: Q 7 9 2 8
BB showed 6 5 and lost (-$11.08 net)
Hero showed J T and won $30.59 ($19.51 net)
BTN showed Q Q and lost (-$9.82 net)

[eclibrise]

Я не знал,что 9макс Зум умер!

[eclibrise]

2 фиша.Я незнаю как по другому здесь играть.
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SB: $8.02 (80.2 bb)
BB: $14.83 (148.3 bb)
UTG: $19.64 (196.4 bb)
MP: $11.04 (110.4 bb)
CO: $12.65 (126.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 9
2 folds, CO raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.90, SB folds, BB calls $0.80, CO calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.75) 4 3 4 (3 players)
BB bets $1.32, CO calls $1.32, Hero raises to $9.10 and is all-in, BB folds, CO calls $7.78

Turn: ($22.27) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($22.27) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $22.27 pot ($1 rake)
Final Board: 4 3 4 8 T
BB mucked and lost (-$2.22 net)
CO showed 4 4 and won $21.27 ($11.27 net)
Hero showed A 9 and lost (-$10 net)

[eclibrise]