[eLf1]

За 6 дней я на NL25 и PL25 слил 250$ !!! Этож каким нужно быть мороном чтоб на пати слить 10 баинов на таком лимите!!! Может подскажите, что со мной?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

UTG ($6.90)
UTG+1 ($21.75)
UTG+2 ($4.40)
MP1 ($4.85)
MP2 ($24.55)
MP3 ($8.75)
CO ($7)
Button ($21.91)
Hero ($43.78)
BB ($14.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J:s:, T:s:.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Button calls $0.25, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 5:s:, 3:s:, 8:s:(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Button bets $0.5, Hero raises to $1.5, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Button calls $1.

Turn: ($4.25) Q:d: (2 players)
Hero bets $3, Button raises to $6, Hero calls $3.

River: ($16.25) Q:s:(2 players)</font>
Hero bets $15, Button calls $21.91 (All-In).

Final Pot: $53.16

Results in white below:
Hero has Js Ts (flush, queen high).
Button has 8c Qh (full house, queens full of eights).
Outcome: Button wins $46.25. Hero wins $6.91.

[Uran]

1. тут все понятно
2. Hero reraises to 5 на префлопе. на ответный рерайз фолд.
3. Hero raises to 4 на флопе. Тёрн чек.
4. тут тоже все понятно
5. возможны две ветки
5.1 Hero bets $3, Button raises to $6, Hero All-in.
5.2 Hero bets $3, Button raises to $6, Hero calls
River Hero cheks
выбор зависит от того, что ты думаешь про оппонента. Против неизвестного оппа на этом лимите я бы выбрал вариант с алыном на тёрне.

[Pupseg]

Ну не знаю....
Можешь посмотреть здесь http://forum.cgm.ru/showpost?goto=118195
Я еще больше слил за пару дней, когда поменял длинные столы на короткие. Вернулся на длинные - все стало в норме

[eLf1]

Случайно удалил раздачи, буду тут постить по немногу, помогите разобраться что где не так. Буду очень признателен за пояснения. Где мои ошибки, как бы поступили вы? Я думаю ваши коментарии помогут новичкам, таким как я не совершать глупых ошибок в дальнейшем!

1.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

CO ($9.84)
Button ($11.05)
SB ($14.60)
BB ($32.70)
UTG ($7.40)
UTG+1 ($35.10)
Hero ($25)
MP1 ($48.45)
MP2 ($23.50)
MP3 ($14.30)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A:h:, K:c:.
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1, 3 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold.

Flop: ($3.25) A:d:, 6:c:, Q:d: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $1, SB folds, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($5.25) 5:d: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $1, Hero raises to $4, MP2 calls $3.

River: ($13.25) 9:d: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $6, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $19.25

Results in white below:
MP2 doesn't show.
Outcome: MP2 wins $19.25.

2. На опа статистика 60/10

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) by Hand Converter CG

UTG+1 ($57.26)
Hero ($26.40)
MP2 ($27.57)
CO ($26.35)
Button ($20.20)
SB ($6.75)
BB ($24.75)
UTG ($48.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K:d:, A:s:.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, 5 folds, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($2.85) 5:s:, 8:c:, A:c:(2 players)</font>
UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $5, UTG calls $3.

Turn: ($12.85) 8:h:(2 players)</font>
UTG bets $1.5, Hero calls $26.40 (All-In), UTG calls $18.65.

River: ($59.40) J:h:(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $59.40

Results in white below:
UTG has 5d 5h (full house, fives full of eights).
Hero has Kd As (two pair, aces and eights).
Outcome: UTG wins $59.40.

3. Без коментариев! просто интересно знать с какой вероятностью это произошло.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

SB ($4.75)
Hero ($25)
UTG ($32.03)
UTG+1 ($27.87)
UTG+2 ($7.76)
MP1 ($9.53)
MP2 ($11.97)
MP3 ($22.10)
CO ($35.63)
Button ($4.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A:h:, A:c:.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, 7 folds, Hero raises to $2.5, UTG+1 calls $27.87 (All-In), Hero calls $24.75 (All-In).

Flop: ($56.47) 9:s:, 9:d:, 4:s:(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($56.47) 2:s:(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($56.47) J:s:(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $56.47

Results in white below:
Hero has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and nines).
UTG+1 has Ad As (flush, ace high).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins $56.22.

4. Тоже не понятно ...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

CO ($35.66)
Hero ($24.65)
SB ($35.38)
BB ($33.32)
UTG ($10.10)
UTG+1 ($14)
UTG+2 ($25)
MP1 ($5)
MP2 ($9.35)
MP3 ($44.14)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A:c:, Q:c:.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($3.35) 4:d:, T:s:, Q:h:(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($3.35) 7:s:(2 players)</font>
CO bets $3, Hero raises to $6, CO calls $3.

River: ($15.35) 3:h:(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero bets $7, CO calls $7.

Final Pot: $29.35

Results in white below:
CO has Kd Kc (one pair, kings).
Hero has Ac Qc (one pair, queens).
Outcome: CO wins $29.35.

5. Ужос ...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) by Hand Converter CG

CO ($24.53)
Button ($6.30)
SB ($29.05)
Hero ($26.50)
UTG ($7.71)
UTG+1 ($52.10)
MP1 ($25.39)
MP2 ($5.95)
MP3 ($28.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J:d:, Q:d:.
5 folds, CO calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.60) 6:s:, 3:s:, J:h:(2 players)</font>
Hero bets $0.5, CO calls $0.50.

Turn: ($1.60) 2:d: (2 players)
Hero bets $1, CO raises to $3, Hero calls $2.

River: ($7.60) K:h:(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero calls $4.

Final Pot: $15.60

Results in white below:
Hero has Jd Qd (one pair, jacks).
CO has 2c 2h (three of a kind, twos).
Outcome: CO wins $15.60.

6. Сразу же следующая раздача после 5 NO comments..

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) by Hand Converter CG

UTG+1 ($30.03)
MP1 ($9.70)
Hero ($24.65)
CO ($5.30)
Button ($9.95)
SB ($46.45)
BB ($29.59)
UTG ($29.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 2:d:, 2:h:.
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 raises to $0.5, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, 2 folds, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25, UTG calls $0.25.

Flop: ($2.50) 3:s:, 9:d:, 2:s:(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $2, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1.75.

Turn: ($6.75) 8:s:(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3, UTG+1 calls $3.

River: ($12.75) K:h:(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $12.75

Results in white below:
UTG+1 has 8h 8c (three of a kind, eights).
Hero has 2d 2h (three of a kind, twos).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins $12.75.

[Uran]

по новым раздачам.
1 "Жадность фраера сгубила". Если чекнул то райз to 6. А так бет флоп 3-4 бакса. Дальше если найдутся коллеры то на тёрне чек - колл или фолд.
2. Hero raises to $7. Если проколлит райз, то дальше лучше от обороны.
4. Hero bet 2-2.5 на флопе. а опп то еще тот отморозок . Короче пол стэка тут выложить изволь как минимум.
5. Против неизвестного оппа фолд на тёрне.
6. бет флоп 4. тёрн чек,

[gl_]

1. Флоп. Конт бет это хорошо. Чек-райз это нормально. Чек-кол очень плохо. Райз до 6 или бет банк.
2. Флоп до 7-8. Дальше с таким опом от обороны.
3. бед бит
4. Флоп бет. Дальше акуратненько.
5. Терн чек-кол маленькой ставки.
6. Райз до 4 на флопе против такой толпы. дальше чек.

Читай форум все подобные вопросы уже обсуждались.

[eLf1]

Спасибо, понял что мало $ ставлю если делаю чек-рейз! выкладываю следующую партию =) Появилась идея! ) Создать архив - как не надо разыгрывать свои руки или спасибо покерные боги, что такие как eLf играют на пати
p.s. По сколько раздач удобнее выкладывать?

7. Правильно ли выкинул?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

UTG+1 ($30.38)
UTG+2 ($7.80)
MP1 ($23.40)
Hero ($24.90)
MP3 ($5.40)
CO ($9.05)
Button ($44.75)
SB ($30.24)
BB ($22.60)
UTG ($28.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q:s:, K:s:.
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, 3 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.10) 5:h:, 8:h:, Q:d: (4 players)
BB bets $0.75, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.75, MP3 folds.

Turn: ($2.60) Q:h:(2 players)</font>
BB bets $1.5, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $22.35 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $30.45

Results in white below:
No showdown. BB wins $30.45.
p.s. Опп показал Q10c

8. Странно как-то сыграл

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) by Hand Converter CG

MP1 ($25.58)
MP2 ($5.90)
MP3 ($24.80)
Hero ($29.60)
Button ($5.65)
SB ($18.95)
BB ($4.65)
UTG ($28.19)
UTG+1 ($23.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J:h:, J:s:.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.5, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.25, MP3 folds.

Flop: ($3.60) 8:s:, Q:h:, Q:s:(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($3.60) 7:d: (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2.5, UTG+1 raises to $4.5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $10.60

Results in white below:
No showdown. UTG+1 wins $10.60.
p.s. Опп показал АQ
9. Что я делаю?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

CO ($30.03)
Button ($11.75)
SB ($24.90)
Hero ($25.60)
UTG ($5.75)
UTG+1 ($9.40)
UTG+2 ($45.10)
MP1 ($26.34)
MP2 ($22.60)
MP3 ($24)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8:s:, T:s:.
3 folds, MP1 raises to $0.5, 4 folds, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.50) 7:s:, 5:d:, 5:s:(3 players)</font>
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $2.5, MP1 calls $2.50, SB folds.

Turn: ($7.50) 2:d: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $3.5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $11

Results in white below:
No showdown. MP1 wins $11.

10. мде....

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

Hero ($25)
UTG+2 ($15.43)
MP1 ($37.59)
MP2 ($28.40)
MP3 ($4.60)
CO ($31.64)
Button ($23.96)
SB ($20.75)
BB ($10.15)
UTG ($29.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K:d:, K:h:.
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.25, 1 fold, CO calls $1.25, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($5.35) 3:h:, 4:s:, 7:c:(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero bets $3, MP2 folds, CO calls $3, UTG calls $3.

Turn: ($14.35) 3:d: (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($14.35) 3:c:(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero bets $4, CO calls $4, UTG calls $4.

Final Pot: $26.35

Results in white below:
UTG has 7d 7h (full house, sevens full of threes).
Hero has Kd Kh (full house, threes full of kings).
CO has Ts Td (full house, threes full of tens).
Outcome: UTG wins $26.35.

11

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

Hero ($24.75)
MP2 ($15.43)
MP3 ($37.59)
CO ($19.05)
Button ($4.60)
SB ($31.74)
BB ($24.31)
UTG ($21)
UTG+1 ($19.90)
UTG+2 ($25.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K:s:, A:s:.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 6 folds, UTG+2 calls $1.

Flop: ($2.85) 5:h:, 3:h:, 2:s:(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $2, UTG+2 calls $2.

Turn: ($6.85) A:h:(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($6.85) 2:d: (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $3, Hero calls $3.

Final Pot: $12.85

Results in white below:
UTG+2 has 5s 5c (full house, fives full of twos).
Hero has Ks As (two pair, aces and twos).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins $12.85.

12.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

Hero ($25.50)
MP2 ($11.65)
MP3 ($4.83)
CO ($5)
Button ($15.80)
SB ($2.55)
BB ($11.86)
UTG ($24.75)
UTG+1 ($27.65)
UTG+2 ($16.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J:d:, J:s:. CO posts a blind of $0.35.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.5, 1 fold, MP3 calls $4.83 (All-In), 4 folds, UTG+2 calls $4.58, Hero calls $3.33.

Flop: ($15.19) 3:c:, K:d:, T:h:(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
UTG+2 bets $2.25, Hero folds.

Turn: ($17.44) 8:c:(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($17.44) 7:d: (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $17.44

Results in white below:
UTG+2 has Ad Ts (one pair, tens).
MP3 has 7c Kc (two pair, kings and sevens).
Outcome: MP3 wins $14.59. UTG+2 wins $2.85.

13. Я морон!

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) by Hand Converter CG

MP1 ($6.51)
MP2 ($42.15)
MP3 ($13.75)
CO ($5.75)
Button ($46.50)
Hero ($39.65)
BB ($5)
UTG ($22.25)
UTG+1 ($5.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:d:, T:d:.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Button raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4) 3:c:, 3:d:, 4:d: (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Button bets $1.75, Hero raises to $3.5, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Button calls $1.75.

Turn: ($11) 4:c:(2 players)</font>
Hero bets $3, Button calls $3.

River: ($17) A:s:(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button bets $5.25, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $22.25

Results in white below:
Button has Kd Jc (two pair, fours and threes).
Outcome: Button wins $22.25.

[Flegmat]

Сообщение от eLf писал вс, 21 января 2007 17:38

За 6 дней я на NL25 и PL25 слил 250$ !!! Этож каким нужно быть мороном чтоб на пати слить 10 баинов на таком лимите!!! Может подскажите, что со мной?

[/color]

Я как-то на PL25 слил 275 баксов за часа 4. 8O Потом в плюс выходил на PL10 часов восемь-десять игры. Оччень приятно там играть .